Mr.DIXON. In point of time it is very in definite. It is definite enough in its character, but the time when those States can be represented is the question. Here is another indication. 1 fin certain resolutions ofiered and adopted by a public meeting at Gettysburg on the 8d day otpOctober, 1865, by Hon. Trun nnus Sravnns, a man of great distinction and ability, a leader I may say, in the other branch of Congress. His talents entitle him to the post. These are the resolut.ons which he offered: “Resolved. That in our judgment the best way to. effectthat [reconstruction is to treat the so czilled confederatestatesns subject to all the liabilities which they claimed for theniselvesas a belligerent indppendent d e facto alien to the Constitution; and entitled to claim no protection under it. “ Reached. That havmg conqueredthis hostile bel ligerent, they shall be held as a conquered enemy, and the laws which are to govern them shall be re ferred to Congress, to wine. asour State convention haswell resolved,it pro crly belonqils. “Resolved, That nnti Congrems all have acted. none of the confederate States is entitled to berep presentedin congress,but shall beheld and treated as Te"rritories unti again admitted into the Union. Renal. Thatwedemand. on behalf of the people of Penus Ivania, that Congress shall declare as forfeitedan vestedin the Government,all the real estate of such of the enemyaswere rebels.whose estateat the beginning of the war wasworth 10,000 dollars or more.asourStateconventionresolved.though wewould have preferred a lower sum: and who were the ownersof morethan 200 acresof arable lan“d. Rem!ved That we desire that the forfeited land shall be divided into convenient farms: and after assigning a just portion to the freedmen the balance should be sold. at convenientperiods, to the highest bidder and the proceeds to be applied as follows: “1. Invest $300.0Q0,0i0no 6%. Government bonds,and add the interest semi annually to the pensions of those who have become pensioners by the casualties of this infamous war. "2. Appropriate 8151! .000900 to pay the damages done by the rebels to loyal citizens. whetherNorth or bi “atD. ay the balanceinto the U.S.Treasury. toward the payment of the national debt." 500 million dollars to be received by confiscation and sale of the property of the whole South and the balance of the price to go to pay the national debt. That is the proposition of the honorable chairman of this JtCommee. This shocked the Senfrom Massachusetts, and I may say that in the way of radicalism anything that shocks him must be sufficiently shocking. [ Laughton] He did not favor it. He was shocked by this monstrous proposition. What is it? The confiscation of the preperty of the whole people. the actual turning out to starvation of an entire population, and until that is done no representation shall be admitted into Congress. That is one of the things which Congress is to do. That is one mode of reconstruction! and still the Senfrom Illinois says, in that convincing manner of his, that there is no human being, to his knowledge, who proposes any indefinite exclusion in point of time. Will it not take some little time to accomplish this, I ask that Sen ator? Is not the honorable member who introduced these resolutions at Gettysburg a man to whom that Senator looks as one who has the right to give opinions? I do not an that he always (gollows his lead, but he sai that he knew no man who proposed an indefinite exclusion. Sir, that gentleman is the chairman of this JtCommee. To him you have committed this question of reconstruction. Our friend and colleague from Maine is powerless in that committee; he has, I think, 6 members on the part of the Senate. The other chairman of the committee has nine. What can ourdis iinguished friend do in that body? It is a question of force, a question of physical power, a question of numbers, it is not a question of intellect. If it was a question of intellect, I think the 2 chairmen would he retty fairly pitted against each other. I would say of the contest between these 2 men the honorable member from Pennsylvania and the honorable. Senfrom Maine, as the poet said of the bat tle of Talavera: "A lorions sight to see For him who had no riond or brother there." Now, sir. I have spoken of the policy of those who difier from me, and, as I suppose, from the President, on this subject. I might allude to other distin uished men. I haves oken of the Gentfrom Penna lvania; I have spoken of the Senfrom l isconsin. I will allude now to another gentleman of high position in the HoRep. 1 mm read his speech in the Globe. I suppose in that official paper I may comment on it with propriety—a speech of great force, perhaps on surpassed by any specch made on this subject. I allude to o 5 one published in the Globe as the speech O Mr. Summsnanesit, of 01110. What. dees he say? He has a policy of reconstruction; and he says: “ Mr. Chairman, let this noble utterance—irre versible guaranteesfor the righm of American citizens of every race and condition be written with pen of iron and point of diamond in your Constitution. letit thus be made irreversihlo indeed, by the nction of theState.iii theonlyway itenn be made irreversible; and then to establish this and every other guaranteeof the Constitution upon the only sure foundation of a free republic—the equality of the people and of the States—make, by the sameor ganic law, everyelector Il 1theUnion absolutelyequal in his right of representation in that renovatedUnion, an“dLIetamcontent. the revolted States base their republican State governmentsupon a general and sincere loy alty of the people,and cometo us under the guarantoesof this renewedUnion, and we hail theireoming an“dItfhyeohuour that brings them. ask again. u posesuch general loyalty should never reappear,s all they be dependencies for“ever? Sir. convincemethat the caseis supposable,then with deepestsorrow I answer—ForeverI" Is not this indefinite in point of time? No, he limits it to forever. Unless he can get these uarantces, this Union must remain dissevered orever. New sir is it surprising that some gentlemen on this floor think it is time for them to assert their individual sentiments against these opinions of men of eminent talent and ability in both Houses of Congress? I come to another exam lo, and one of still more power, probably, in the estimation of the Senate. Icome to the opinions of the honorable Senfrom Massachusetts, [Mrs Suzanna] He, presiding at the call of the people of Massachusetts at a rest State convention held in that noble State in the month of september last, laid down his ideas of the true policy of reconstruction. So radical is his plan of reconstruction that he cannot go for the resolution reported by the JtCommee of 15: That does not go deep enough for him. His is a subsoil plow. He thinks it may require 30 years to accomplish his purpose. in I mistaken?