Mr. JENCKES. The work has to be done, and it must be paid for exactly as other work under other laws must be comensated for to no renter extent and in no other way. ow, in regard to the objection as to fraud and collusion, I have failed to understand the explanation of the gentleman as to what he means by a fraudulent creditor. If this law has any merit whatever, it is that it prevents any possible collusion between fraudulent debtors and fictitious creditors. It provides that a debtor who places upon his schedule the name of paperson to whom e is not indebted shall not receive his discharge. Italso provides that a person who swears to a claim to which he is not entitled shall receive no dividend. It makes provision also for punishment incidentally, in certain ways, if such collusion orfraud is attempted to be prac ticed upon the court. Therefore, Mr. Speakcr, I dismiss from consideration entirely this subject of fraudulent creditors, or fraudulent preferences, or collusion between the bankrupt and his debtor. The gentleman made another point, not an objection to the bill as it stand. but by way of an sting an improvement. He thinks that oe gal assignees, such as he proposes would be more efficient than these temporary Officers who have bonds in every instance, who are responsible to the court and responsible to the parties liable to the debtor in an action if they exceed their authority, liabletothe creditor if the collude with the debtor. The gentleman t inks that these officers would not be so efficient as official assignees in the different counties. Why, sir, I ask the gentleman how man counties there are, for instance, in the State of NewYork, and whether his plan would not increase the number of standin officers under this bill by just the number o counties and I should ike to know from him, as a lawyer, by what process the title and custody of property (be cause both must go together in this intermediate stage of the proceedings) passes from the debtor to the o, cial assignee, supposing that the debtor files his petition in the on of NewYork and the property is located in Chatauque. What is the official assignee in NewYorkto do ine such a case? The practical proceeding, r is this: if it is the debtor who makes the petition, he wants his property taken care ofas it ought to be, and he asks the marshal to appoint somebody for the purpose. If it is thr. creditors who file the petition, they want to prevent the squandering or wasting of the property by this very collusion between fraudulent debtors and fictitious creditors which the gentleman hinted at. Their object is that the property, during that intermediate period, shall be taken care of in the propermanner and at the least expense. It is their interest that the property should be in charge of a person upon whcm they can rely, who is responsible to them under the bond of the marshal of the district, who is directly amenable to suit at law or in equity, and if need be, to the process of the court for contem t.