Mr. GRIMES. A single word. The statis tics furnished to us by the Senfrom Maine are exceedingly interesting. I know he has been spending along time in gathering them it. Iave no doubt they are very accurate. I have no doubt he has stated to us precisely the number of acres that have been given to the various western States since the foundation of the Government for educational purposes. But I ask him to remember and the Senate to remember that the system of granting those lands was inau rated by the Government and established betore a single white man went upon them. They were not given for the benefit of the white men, or through any instrumentality of the white men after they occupied the land, but the system was created by his progenitors and the progenitors of the rest of us who emigrated from the East, for the purpose of inducing other men, their neighbors, to go and occupy these lands. The Senator says that he has been appalled at the number of propozsitions that have been made here togrant lands for wagon roads, railroads, &c. I think he will hear me witness that I have voted against as many of them and have been as urgent against them as anyone in this body. I have opposed nearly all of them, and I think it isexceeding bad policy for the Government to grant so arge a portion of them. I want these lands saved for the purpose of enabling his constituents and mine to go upon them and occupy them as bonajide settlers. That is what the Government ought to use them for, because I can assure you, Mr. President, that nearly all the grants of land that are made to railroad and wagon roads (and let me assure the Senfrom Massachusetts that that will be the result with his scrip) find their way into the hands of rich capitalists, and in 18 months or 2 years after this rant is made the scrip will be held by the wealthy men of the country, and the tendency will be to exclude settlers. Let me say further, Mr. President, what I believe I said when I was up before, that I am not speaking for the benefit of my State. There is not a foot of public land that I know of now in the State of Iowa. If there are any they are lands that nobody would occupy. But we have had exerience in that State. We have had just sucii experience as I think you are now preparing for some of these other western States; and I do not want to see them put through the same process. Now, I say again to the Senfrom Massachusetts, I have not any conscientious scruples aboutvotin money out of the Treasury to assist schools in t 10DistCol. Let him present a bill, and I will vote for it. When ever he or the chairman of the ComDistCol represent to me that the interests of this city require that we should vote money for the purpose of establishing or continuing a school already established, 1 will vote for it most cheerfully. Iopose this bill because of the had results that think will flow from the establishment of this principle and from the issue of this scrip results not to be experienced by the constitucuts of the Senator, bugto be experienced by the constituents of the Senfrom Minnesota and other western States and Territories. I object to the inauguration of this principle for that reason. The Senfrom Maine says thatvthis principle is sustained by innumerable precedents. “Ihat are the precedents? He quotes one, and that is the agricultural college bill, and none other so far as I know, except the single case which I cited before where a grant of land of one township was made over 40 years ago to the State of Kentucky for the purpose of supporting a deaf and dumb asylum, think, that and being in the State of Florida, and it was a subject of controversy between the States oi Kentucky and Florida up to the time that the secession movement was made live years ago. The precedent in the case of the agricultural college bill I do not think is worthy of being 1866. 713 followed. If we are going to do this this year, it has got to be followed in the future. It will be a plied to other portions of the country than the DistCol, and nobody can tell where it is likely to end. I hope that the motion of the Senfrom Kansas will prevail, and that this bill will be recommitted.