The PRESIDENT protempore. On the motion to refer this bill to the ComJudiciary the yeas&nays have been called for. The Chair will put the question on 2nding that demand. The yeas&nays were ordered. Mr Fo Mr. President, I had no in tention of entering into this debate; and I came into the Senate this morning just as the distinguished Senfrom Michigan rose to address the Senate on the pending question, which I understand to be a question of reference. I certainly think that this important and grave matter ought to be referred to the ComJudiciary; and if I had any doubts on that subject, my doubts would be removed by the remarks which have fallen from the Senat or from Michigan. That Senator has taken it himself to say here, from his own knowl ge, as notorious, he said, as the records of a court of justice importing, therefore, absolute verity that pardons granted by the POTUS were for sale in the city of Washington, and had been, and that, too, by women of bad character. Now, sir, since that charge is made, and from so distinguished a source a Senator of the U.S. in his place I think it is very proper and becoming that the Senate should refer a measure of this kind to the ComJudiciary; that they should not go forward and pass in hot haste a bill upon. subject with such a charge grefe.rr”ed against the POTUS charge which, if true, I need not say, renders him liable to impeachment. Well now, sir, without knowing much about this matter I profess to have no personal knowledge I take it upon myself, in my capacity as a Senator here, in my place utterly to deny the charge. I say the charge is not true. The Senator has been misinformed; he has been most grossly misinformed. The POTUS is not guilty of the crime which he in his misinformation alleges against him; and I do not think it is proper that such a charge as that should be made against the President without a particle of proof being adduced to sustain it. I, of course, am not prepared to go into that case; I am not pred to set before the Senate the real facts with regard to it; but I have heard that charge made, and I cannot sit here willingly and hear the c without a denial; and it that my denial is as good as the Senator's assertion. I say that the distinguished Senator has been misinformed, and I feel that he will be as glad as anyone else to hear it. While, as I said before, I am not prepared to go into details, and am not particularly conversant with the facts, I know enough of the case to be enabled to inform him and I am sure he will be glad to hear it that the charge is utterly untrue.